My mothers grandmother (first ancestor JW) immigrated to the USA from Sicily about the time this Precursor to the Awake magazine was written. It seems like something from Mad magazine.
Sea Breeze
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Awake Magazine - No Longer Being Printed?
by JWTom insomeone made reference in another post that the awake magazine had ceased publication.
maybe i missed it since i have not been on here as much in the last 6 months.
is this true?
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Directions that don't make sense to us
by Longlivetherenegades inat times those appointed to take the lead may give direction that does not make sense to us.
however, jehovah blesses obedience.
.......watchtower november 2021 study article 47 paragraph 11. for example:for example: so the king(david) said to joab go take a census of israel (2 samuel 24: 1.....) .
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At times those appointed to take the lead may give direction that [IS NOT IN THE BIBLE] does not make sense to us. However, Jehovah blesses obedience [TO HIS WORD AND NOT MEN]. .......Watchtower November 2021 study article 47 paragraph 11
There, I fixed it. Should I apply to Bethel?
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The One Way Speed of Light Could Be Instantaneous
by Sea Breeze inphysics students learn the speed of light, c, is the same for all inertial observers but no one has ever actually measured it in one direction.
assuming that light travels the same speed in all directions is a convention, rather than an experimentally verified fact.
this really challenges what we think we know.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptn6ewhb27k&ab_channel=veritasium .
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Sea Breeze
- The one-way speed of light is unresolvable, because a precise measurement requires a clock at either end and at the level of accuracy that is needed, the two clocks won't give exactly the same reading at two different locations because of the very nature of the universe.
- TD:
- If you want to describe precisely when and where something takes place, you need four coordinates: three spatial ones and one temporal one, i.e., time.
- Einstein taught us that time is relative for each and every observer, and there's no such thing as "absolute time".
Kinda makes the creative days in Genesis a non-issue. Whose time was it?
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Mind control
by joao inwt has really been doing a great job at mind-controlling their members.
how can people who say they are your friends not even want to know why you're leaving when you want them to know?!
eh!
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How can people who say they are your friends not even want to know why you're leaving when you want them to know?
Simple, because they worship an idol who can do no wrong in their mind. Idolatry has plagued man since almost the beginning. It is very seductive.
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How far do we get away from 1914
by PimoElder inhow far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.
they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .
with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.
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as I said before I like the good things about being in the org
Like:
No birthdays
No blood (early death for some)
No Homecoming games in High School
No mothers day
No school soccer growing up
No fathers day
No gospel music
No Thanksgiving
No school football growing up
No celebrating Jesus' birthdayNo school basketball growing up
No friends who are not JW's
Knocking on people's doors starting at age 5-7 and teaching them the heresy that they can be God's Friend by running faster, jumping higher and trying harder even though scripture says that "by the works of the Law shall no flesh be Justified".
No military
No Freedom to Question anything the GB dictates
No flag salute ("under God")
No praying with other believers
No Prom Night for Students
Never seeing certain family members ever again
Knocking on people's doors starting at age 5-7 and teaching them the heresy that they cannot get their sins forgiven through the new covenant (Mt. 26: 27-28)
Never seeing your family ever again if you like to have an occasional cigar
No freedom to repent without a submission to a priesthood-like confessional
No Voting
No Valentines Day candy when you are a kid
No doubting human leaders
No allegiance to "Christ Alone" (must include creepy fat old men)I grew up in this tomb and even regular pioneered. I've seen what it does to children, families and lives. You are wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked.
Enjoy your mental illness.
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How far do we get away from 1914
by PimoElder inhow far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.
they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .
with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.
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Sea Breeze
False, JW's most certainly preach the only Gospel which of course is a message of reconciliation as an expression of God's Grace or undeserved kindness to all men of goodwill.
Scholar, your lies won't work here. Matt. 26:27-28 says that the new covenant is for the forgiveness of sins. This is how people are reconciled to God. But JW's preach that this covenant is closed to people. There is no forgiveness outside of the NC. Not one NT scripture supports this.
You know very well that the JW message: Be-Jehovah's-Friend-without-the-NC was not taught ANYWHERE by the apostles. Gal 1: 8&9 says that if anyone preaches any other gospel other than what the apostles preached that he would be cursed.JW's preach a message of curses and failures.. They have a weird inability to follow even the simplest of instructions. Like when Jesus said, "Come to me, and I will give you rest". So, what to JW's do? They go to Jehovah instead.
When I came to Jesus as he instructed, my JW relatives considered me the enemy. Just try telling someone at the KH that Jesus is your personal savior and see how fast you get kicked to the curb.
My family is doing great after 18 years. Every JW family I knew has crashed and burned in one way or another.The curse is real.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Lloyd decides to wield his saber any way he wants to.
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How far do we get away from 1914
by PimoElder inhow far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.
they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .
with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.
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Scholar JW,
No thanks because your Church does not teach or proclaim the Gospel, the Kingdom
FYI, All Christians (pre-millennial) teach the gospel of a literal Kingdom headed by Jesus. Churches call this the Millennium Reign. As a scholar, surely you are aware that the gospel of the kingdom is a strong minority compared to the various gospels taught in the NT.
Gospel of Jesus Christ (or Christ ) – 12 times
Gospel of God – 7 times
Gospel of the kingdom – 4 times
Gospel of peace – 2 times
Gospel of the grace of God – 1 time
Gospel of your salvation – 1 time
Gospel of the uncircumcision – 1 time
Gospel of the circumcision – 1 time
Gospel of his Son – 1 time
During the Church Age (Age of Grace) Christians were to preach the gospel of grace-Jesus-God-salvation. Paull described this as the ministry of reconciliation. He did not preach the gospel of the kingdom... that is for a future time, as it is for us as well.
2 Cor. 5 18-19 - And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
Surely, you would agree that JW's do not preach a ministry of grace or reconciliation like Paul. This is because the WT has convinced them that the dispensation of Grace is already over with....too late. Not so. It is still going on.
The Good News of the Kingdom will primarily be preached during the Great Tribulation as the Age of Grace comes to a close and the birth of God's Kingdom will replace the beastly Anti-Christ World rule.
JW's have jumped the gun and used this as an excuse to deny the New Covenant which is clearly "for the forgiveness of sins" (MT. 26: 27-28)
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The One Way Speed of Light Could Be Instantaneous
by Sea Breeze inphysics students learn the speed of light, c, is the same for all inertial observers but no one has ever actually measured it in one direction.
assuming that light travels the same speed in all directions is a convention, rather than an experimentally verified fact.
this really challenges what we think we know.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptn6ewhb27k&ab_channel=veritasium .
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You point it at a flat surface and it tells you how far away it is, to the 64th of an inch, by measuring the time delay of the reflection.
That is a round trip, not one way. Einstein wrote that C is equal to 2 AB (distance from A to B plus B to A)
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How far do we get away from 1914
by PimoElder inhow far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.
they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .
with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.
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Sea Breeze
I am just saying that even if 1914 is not the exact date, it would mot invalidate all the other convincing evidence about JW.
Fisherman, Do you still think there is something to be salvaged from the WT even after leaving? What other convincing evidence do you have about the JW's?